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favor of acquiring additional territory; in disregard of how it may

affect us upon the slavery question?〃 Judge Douglas answered;that

is; in his own way he answered it。  I believe that; although he took

a good many words to answer it; it was a little more fully answered

than any other。  The substance of his answer was that this country

would continue to expand; that it would need additional territory;

that it was as absurd to suppose that we could continue upon our

present territory; enlarging in population as we are; as it would be

to hoop a boy twelve years of age; and expect him to grow to man's

size without bursting the hoops。  I believe it was something like

that。  Consequently; he was in favor of the acquisition of further

territory as fast as we might need it; in disregard of how it might

affect the slavery question。  I do not say this as giving his exact

language; but he said so substantially; and he would leave the

question of slavery; where the territory was acquired; to be settled

by the people of the acquired territory。  '〃That's the doctrine。〃'

May be it is; let us consider that for a while。  This will probably;

in the run of things; become one of the concrete manifestations of

this slavery question。  If Judge Douglas's policy upon this question

succeeds; and gets fairly settled down; until all opposition is

crushed out; the next thing will be a grab for the territory of poor

Mexico; an invasion of the rich lands of South America; then the

adjoining islands will follow; each one of which promises additional

slave…fields。  And this question is to be left to the people of those

countries for settlement。  When we get Mexico; I don't know whether

the Judge will be in favor of the Mexican people that we get with it

settling that question for themselves and all others; because we know

the Judge has a great horror for mongrels; and I understand that the

people of Mexico are most decidedly a race of mongrels。  I understand

that there is not more than one person there out of eight who is pure

white; and I suppose from the Judge's previous declaration that when

we get Mexico; or any considerable portion of it; that he will be in

favor of these mongrels settling the question; which would bring him

somewhat into collision with his horror of an inferior race。



It is to be remembered; though; that this power of acquiring

additional territory is a power confided to the President and the

Senate of the United States。  It is a power not under the control of

the representatives of the people any further than they; the

President and the Senate; can be considered the representatives of

the people。  Let me illustrate that by a case we have in our history。

When we acquired the territory from Mexico in the Mexican War; the

House of Representatives; composed of the immediate representatives

of the people; all the time insisted that the territory thus to be

acquired should be brought in upon condition that slavery should be

forever prohibited therein; upon the terms and in the language that

slavery had been prohibited from coming into this country。  That was

insisted upon constantly and never failed to call forth an assurance

that any territory thus acquired should have that prohibition in it;

so far as the House of Representatives was concerned。  But at last

the President and Senate acquired the territory without asking the

House of Representatives anything about it; and took it without that

prohibition。  They have the power of acquiring territory without the

immediate representatives of the people being called upon to say

anything about it; and thus furnishing a very apt and powerful means

of bringing new territory into the Union; and; when it is once

brought into the country; involving us anew in this slavery

agitation。  It is therefore; as I think; a very important question

for due consideration of the American people; whether the policy of

bringing in additional territory; without considering at all how it

will operate upon the safety of the Union in reference to this one

great disturbing element in our national politics; shall be adopted

as the policy of the country。  You will bear in mind that it is to be

acquired; according to the Judge's view; as fast as it is needed; and

the indefinite part of this proposition is that we have only Judge

Douglas and his class of men to decide how fast it is needed。  We

have no clear and certain way of determining or demonstrating how

fast territory is needed by the necessities of the country。  Whoever

wants to go out filibustering; then; thinks that more territory is

needed。  Whoever wants wider slave…fields feels sure that some

additional territory is needed as slave territory。  Then it is as

easy to show the necessity of additional slave…territory as it is to

assert anything that is incapable of absolute demonstration。

Whatever motive a man or a set of men may have for making annexation

of property or territory; it is very easy to assert; but much less

easy to disprove; that it is necessary for the wants of the country。



And now it only remains for me to say that I think it is a very grave

question for the people of this Union to consider; whether; in view

of the fact that this slavery question has been the only one that has

ever endangered our Republican institutions; the only one that has

ever threatened or menaced a dissolution of the Union; that has ever

disturbed us in such a way as to make us fear for the perpetuity of

our liberty;in view of these facts; I think it is an exceedingly

interesting and important question for this people to consider

whether we shall engage in the policy of acquiring additional

territory; discarding altogether from our consideration; while

obtaining new territory; the question how it may affect us in regard

to this; the only endangering element to our liberties and national

greatness。  The Judge's view has been expressed。  I; in my answer to

his question; have expressed mine。  I think it will become an

important and practical question。  Our views are before the public。

I am willing and anxious that they should consider them fully; that

they should turn it about and consider the importance of the

question; and arrive at a just conclusion as to whether it is or is

not wise in the people of this Union; in the acquisition of new

territory; to consider whether it will add to the disturbance that is

existing amongst uswhether it will add to the one only danger that

has ever threatened the perpetuity of the Union or our own liberties。

I think it is extremely important that they shall decide; and rightly

decide; that question before entering upon that policy。



And now; my friends; having said the little I wish to say upon this

head; whether I have occupied the whole of the remnant of my time or

not; I believe I could not enter upon any new topic so as to treat it

fully; without transcending my time; which I would not for a moment

think of doing。  I give way to Judge Douglas。









SIXTH JOINT DEBATE;



AT QUINCY; OCTOBER 13; 1858。



LADIES AND GENTLEMEN: I have had no immediate conference with Judge

Douglas; but I will venture to say that he and I will perfectly agree

that your entire silence; both when I speak and when he speaks; will

be most agreeable to us。



In the month of May; 1856; the elements in the State of Illinois

which have since been consolidated into the Republican party

assembled together in a State Convention at Bloomington。  They

adopted at that time what; in political language; is called a

platform。  In June of the same year the elements of the Republican

party in the nation assembled together in a National Convention at

Philadelphia。  They adopted what is called the National Platform。  In

June; 1858;the present year;the Republicans of Illinois

reassembled at Springfield; in State Convention; and adopted again

their platform; as I suppose not differing in any essential

particular

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