charmides-第8章
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translation the word has been rendered in different places either
Temperance or Wisdom; as the connection seemed to require: for in the
philosophy of Plato (Greek) still retains an intellectual element (as
Socrates is also said to have identified (Greek) with (Greek): Xen。 Mem。)
and is not yet relegated to the sphere of moral virtue; as in the
Nicomachean Ethics of Aristotle。
The beautiful youth; Charmides; who is also the most temperate of human
beings; is asked by Socrates; 'What is Temperance?' He answers
characteristically; (1) 'Quietness。' 'But Temperance is a fine and noble
thing; and quietness in many or most cases is not so fine a thing as
quickness。' He tries again and says (2) that temperance is modesty。 But
this again is set aside by a sophistical application of Homer: for
temperance is good as well as noble; and Homer has declared that 'modesty
is not good for a needy man。' (3) Once more Charmides makes the attempt。
This time he gives a definition which he has heard; and of which Socrates
conjectures that Critias must be the author: 'Temperance is doing one's
own business。' But the artisan who makes another man's shoes may be
temperate; and yet he is not doing his own business; and temperance defined
thus would be opposed to the division of labour which exists in every
temperate or well…ordered state。 How is this riddle to be explained?
Critias; who takes the place of Charmides; distinguishes in his answer
between 'making' and 'doing;' and with the help of a misapplied quotation
from Hesiod assigns to the words 'doing' and 'work' an exclusively good
sense: Temperance is doing one's own business;(4) is doing good。
Still an element of knowledge is wanting which Critias is readily induced
to admit at the suggestion of Socrates; and; in the spirit of Socrates and
of Greek life generally; proposes as a fifth definition; (5) Temperance is
self…knowledge。 But all sciences have a subject: number is the subject of
arithmetic; health of medicinewhat is the subject of temperance or
wisdom? The answer is that (6) Temperance is the knowledge of what a man
knows and of what he does not know。 But this is contrary to analogy; there
is no vision of vision; but only of visible things; no love of loves; but
only of beautiful things; how then can there be a knowledge of knowledge?
That which is older; heavier; lighter; is older; heavier; and lighter than
something else; not than itself; and this seems to be true of all relative
notionsthe object of relation is outside of them; at any rate they can
only have relation to themselves in the form of that object。 Whether there
are any such cases of reflex relation or not; and whether that sort of
knowledge which we term Temperance is of this reflex nature; has yet to be
determined by the great metaphysician。 But even if knowledge can know
itself; how does the knowledge of what we know imply the knowledge of what
we do not know? Besides; knowledge is an abstraction only; and will not
inform us of any particular subject; such as medicine; building; and the
like。 It may tell us that we or other men know something; but can never
tell us what we know。
Admitting that there is a knowledge of what we know and of what we do not
know; which would supply a rule and measure of all things; still there
would be no good in this; and the knowledge which temperance gives must be
of a kind which will do us good; for temperance is a good。 But this
universal knowledge does not tend to our happiness and good: the only kind
of knowledge which brings happiness is the knowledge of good and evil。 To
this Critias replies that the science or knowledge of good and evil; and
all the other sciences; are regulated by the higher science or knowledge of
knowledge。 Socrates replies by again dividing the abstract from the
concrete; and asks how this knowledge conduces to happiness in the same
definite way in which medicine conduces to health。
And now; after making all these concessions; which are really inadmissible;
we are still as far as ever from ascertaining the nature of temperance;
which Charmides has already discovered; and had therefore better rest in
the knowledge that the more temperate he is the happier he will be; and not
trouble himself with the speculations of Socrates。
In this Dialogue may be noted (1) The Greek ideal of beauty and goodness;
the vision of the fair soul in the fair body; realised in the beautiful
Charmides; (2) The true conception of medicine as a science of the whole as
well as the parts; and of the mind as well as the body; which is playfully
intimated in the story of the Thracian; (3) The tendency of the age to
verbal distinctions; which here; as in the Protagoras and Cratylus; are
ascribed to the ingenuity of Prodicus; and to interpretations or rather
parodies of Homer or Hesiod; which are eminently characteristic of Plato
and his contemporaries; (4) The germ of an ethical principle contained in
the notion that temperance is 'doing one's own business;' which in the
Republic (such is the shifting character of the Platonic philosophy) is
given as the definition; not of temperance; but of justice; (5) The
impatience which is exhibited by Socrates of any definition of temperance
in which an element of science or knowledge is not included; (6) The
beginning of metaphysics and logic implied in the two questions: whether
there can be a science of science; and whether the knowledge of what you
know is the same as the knowledge of what you do not know; and also in the
distinction between 'what you know' and 'that you know;' (Greek;) here too
is the first conception of an absolute self…determined science (the claims
of which; however; are disputed by Socrates; who asks cui bono?) as well as
the first suggestion of the difficulty of the abstract and concrete; and
one of the earliest anticipations of the relation of subject and object;
and of the subjective element in knowledgea 'rich banquet' of
metaphysical questions in which we 'taste of many things。' (7) And still
the mind of Plato; having snatched for a moment at these shadows of the
future; quickly rejects them: thus early has he reached the conclusion
that there can be no science which is a 'science of nothing' (Parmen。)。
(8) The conception of a science of good and evil also first occurs here; an
anticipation of the Philebus and Republic as well as of moral philosophy in
later ages。
The dramatic interest of the Dialogue chiefly centres in the youth
Charmides; with whom Socrates talks in the kindly spirit of an elder。 His
childlike simplicity and ingenuousness are contrasted with the dialectical
and rhetorical arts of Critias; who is the grown…up man of the world;
having a tincture of philosophy。 No hint is given; either here or in the
Timaeus; of the infamy which attaches to the name of the latter in Athenian
history。 He is simply a cultivated person who; like his kinsman Plato; is
ennobled by the connection of his family with Solon (Tim。); and had been
the follower; if not the disciple; both of Socrates and of the Sophists。
In the argument he is not unfair; if allowance is made for a slight
rhetorical tendency; and for a natural desire to save his reputation with
the company; he is sometimes nearer the truth than Socrates。 Nothing in
his language or behaviour is unbecoming the guardian of the beautiful
Charmides。 His love of reputation is characteristically Greek; and
contrasts with the humility of Socrates。 Nor in Charmides himself