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know what a law is? Well; those are laws which the majority; being met 

together in conclave;  approve and enact   as to what   it is right to do;  and 

what it is right to abstain from doing。 

     Alc。 Enact on the hypothesis that it is right to do what is good? or to 

do what is bad? 

     Per。 What is good; to be sure; young sir; not what is bad。 

     Alc。 Supposing it is not the majority; but; as in the case of an oligarchy; 

the minority; who meet and enact the rules of conduct; what are these? 

     Per。 Whatever the ruling power of the state after deliberation enacts as 

our duty to do; goes by the name of laws。 

     Alc。 Then if a tyrant; holding the chief power in the state; enacts rules 

of conduct for the citizens; are these enactments law? 

     Per。 Yes; anything which a tyrant as head of the state enacts; also goes 

by the name of law。 

     Alc。 But; Pericles; violence and lawlessnesshow do we define them? 

Is it not when a stronger man forces a weaker to do what seems right to 

himnot by persuasion but by compulsion? 

     Per。 I should say so。 

     Alc。 It would seem to follow that if a tyrant; without persuading the 

citizens;     drives   them     by   enactment      to   do    certain   thingsthat     is 

lawlessness? 

     Per。 You are right; and I retract the statement that measures passed by a 

tyrant without persuasion of the citizens are law。 

     Alc。 And what of measures passed by a minority; not by persuasion of 

the majority; but in the exercise of its power only? Are we; or are we not; 

to apply the term violence to these? 

     Per。 I think that anything which any one forces another to do without 



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persuasion; whether by enactment or not; is violence rather than law。 

     Alc。 It would seem that everything which the majority; in the exercise 

of its power over the possessors of wealth; and without persuading them; 

chooses to enact; is of the nature of violence rather than of law? 

     To   be   sure   (answered   Pericles);   adding: At   your   age   we   were   clever 

hands at such quibbles ourselves。 It was just such subtleties which we used 

to practise our wits upon; as you do now; if I mistake not。 

     To   which Alcibiades   replied: Ah;   Pericles;   I   do   wish   we   could   have 

met in those days when you were at your cleverest in such matters。 

     Well; then; as soon as the desired superiority over the politicians of the 

day   seemed   to   be   attained;   Critias   and Alcibiades   turned   their   backs   on 

Socrates。      They     found    his   society    unattractive;     not   to   speak    of   the 

annoyance        of    being    cross…questioned        on    their    own     shortcomings。 

Forthwith they devoted themselves to those affairs of state but for which 

they would never have come near him at all。 

     No; if one would seek to see true companions of Socrates; one must 

look to Crito;'24' and Chaerephon; and Chaerecrates; to Hermogenes; to 

Simmias and Cebes; to Phaedondes and others; who clung to him not to 

excel in the rhetoric of the Assembly or the law…courts; but with the nobler 

ambition   of   attaining   to   such   beauty   and   goodliness   of   soul   as   would 

enable them to discharge the various duties of life to house and family; to 

relatives and friends; to fellow…citizens; and to the state at large。 Of these 

true   followers   not   one   in   youth   or   old   age   was   ever   guilty;   or   thought 

guilty; of committing any evil deed。 

     '24'   For   these   true   followers;   familiar   to   us   in   the   pages   of   Plato; 

(〃Crito;〃 〃Apol。;〃 〃Phaedo;〃 etc) see Cobet; 〃Pros。 Xen。〃 

     〃But   for   all   that;〃   the   accuser   insists;   〃Socrates   taught   sons   to   pour 

contumely upon their fathers'25' by persuading his young friends that he 

could   make   them   wiser   than   their   sires;   or   by   pointing   out   that   the   law 

allowed a son to sue his father for aberration of mind; and to imprison him; 

which legal ordinance he put in evidence to prove that it might be well for 

the wiser to imprison the more ignorant。〃 

     '25' See 〃Apol。〃 20; Arist。 〃Clouds;〃 1407; where Pheidippides 〃drags 



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his father Strepsiades through the mire。〃 

     Now      what    Socrates    held    was;   that   if  a  man     may    with    justice 

incarcerate another for no better cause than a form of folly or ignorance; 

this same person could not justly complain if he in his turn were kept in 

bonds by his superiors in knowledge; and to come to the bottom of such 

questions; to discover the difference between madness and ignorance was 

a problem which he was perpetually working at。 His opinion came to this: 

If a madman may; as a matter of expediency to himself and his friends; be 

kept in prison; surely; as a matter of justice; the man who knows not what 

he ought to know should be content to sit at the feet of those who know; 

and be taught。 

     But it was the rest of their kith and kin; not fathers only (according to 

the   accuser);   whom   Socrates   dishonoured   in   the   eyes   of   his   circle   of 

followers; when he said that 〃the sick man or the litigant does not derive 

assistance from his relatives;'26' but from his doctor in the one case; and 

his   legal   adviser    in  the  other。〃   〃Listen    further   to  his  language     about 

friends;〃     says   the  accuser:    〃'What    is  the   good    of  their  being    kindly 

disposed; unless they can be of some practical use to you? Mere goodness 

of disposition is nothing; those only are worthy of honour who combine 

with the knowledge of what is right the faculty of expounding it;''27' and 

so   by   bringing   the   young   to   look   upon   himself   as   a   superlatively   wise 

person gifted with an extraordinary capacity for making others wise also; 

he so worked on the dispositions of those who consorted with him that in 

their esteem the rest of the world counted for nothing by comparison with 

Socrates。〃 

     '26' See Grote; 〃H。 G。〃 v。 535。 

     '27'   Cf。   Thuc。   ii。   60。   Pericles   says;   〃Yet   I   with   whom   you   are   so 

angry   venture      to  say  of   myself;   that   I  am   as  capable    as  any   one   of 

devising and explaining a sound policy。〃Jowett。 

     Now     I  admit    the  language     about    fathers   and   the  rest  of   a  man's 

relations。 I can go further; and add some other sayings of his; that 〃when 

the soul (which is alone the indwelling centre of intelligence) is gone out 

of a man; be he our nearest and dearest friend; we carry the body forth and 



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bury it out of sight。〃 〃Even in life;〃 he used to say; 〃each of us is ready to 

part with any portion of his best possessionto wit; his own bodyif it be 

useless and unprofitable。 He will remove it himself; or suffer another to do 

so in his stead。 Thus men cut off their own nails; hair; or corns; they allow 

surgeons to cut and cauterise them; not without pains and aches; and are so 

grateful to the doctor for his services that they further give him a fee。 Or 

again; a man ejects the spittle from his mouth as far as possible。'28' Why? 

Because it is of no use while it stays within the system; but is detrimental 

rather。〃 

     '28' See Aristot。 〃Eth。 Eud。〃 vii。 1。 

     Now   by   these   instances   his   object   was   not   to   inculcate   the   duty   of 

burying   one's   father   alive   or   of   cutting   oneself   to   bits;   but   to   show   that 

lack   of   intelligence   means   lack   of   wort

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