phaedrus-第2章
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Soc。 By Here; a fair resting…place; full of summer sounds and
scents。 Here is this lofty and spreading plane…tree; and the agnus
cast us high and clustering; in the fullest blossom and the greatest
fragrance; and the stream which flows beneath the plane…tree is
deliciously cold to the feet。 Judging from the ornaments and images;
this must be a spot sacred to Achelous and the Nymphs。 How
delightful is the breeze:…so very sweet; and there is a sound in the
air shrill and summerlike which makes answer to the chorus of the
cicadae。 But the greatest charm of all is the grass; like a pillow
gently sloping to the head。 My dear Phaedrus; you have been an
admirable guide。
Phaedr。 What an incomprehensible being you are; Socrates: when you
are in the country; as you say; you really are like some stranger
who is led about by a guide。 Do you ever cross the border? I rather
think that you never venture even outside the gates。
Soc。 Very true; my good friend; and I hope that you will excuse me
when you hear the reason; which is; that I am a lover of knowledge;
and the men who dwell in the city are my teachers; and not the trees
or the country。 Though I do indeed believe that you have found a spell
with which to draw me out of the city into the country; like a
hungry cow before whom a bough or a bunch of fruit is waved。 For
only hold up before me in like manner a book; and you may lead me
all round Attica; and over the wide world。 And now having arrived; I
intend to lie down; and do you choose any posture in which you can
read best。 Begin。
Phaedr。 Listen。 You know how matters stand with me; and how; as I
conceive; this affair may be arranged for the advantage of both of us。
And I maintain that I ought not to fail in my suit; because I am not
your lover: for lovers repent of the kindnesses which they have
shown when their passion ceases; but to the non…lovers who are free
and not under any compulsion; no time of repentance ever comes; for
they confer their benefits according to the measure of their
ability; in the way which is most conducive to their own interest。
Then again; lovers consider how by reason of their love they have
neglected their own concerns and rendered service to others: and
when to these benefits conferred they add on the troubles which they
have endured; they think that they have long ago made to the beloved a
very ample return。 But the non…lover has no such tormenting
recollections; he has never neglected his affairs or quarrelled with
his relations; he has no troubles to add up or excuse to invent; and
being well rid of all these evils; why should he not freely do what
will gratify the beloved?
If you say that the lover is more to be esteemed; because his love
is thought to be greater; for he is willing to say and do what is
hateful to other men; in order to please his beloved;…that; if true;
is only a proof that he will prefer any future love to his present;
and will injure his old love at the pleasure of the new。 And how; in a
matter of such infinite importance; can a man be right in trusting
himself to one who is afflicted with a malady which no experienced
person would attempt to cure; for the patient himself admits that he
is not in his right mind; and acknowledges that he is wrong in his
mind; but says that he is unable to control himself? And if he came to
his right mind; would he ever imagine that the desires were good which
he conceived when in his wrong mind? Once more; there are many more
non…lovers than lovers; and if you choose the best of the lovers;
you will not have many to choose from; but if from the non…lovers; the
choice will be larger; and you will be far more likely to find among
them a person who is worthy of your friendship。 If public opinion be
your dread; and you would avoid reproach; in all probability the
lover; who is always thinking that other men are as emulous of him
as he is of them; will boast to some one of his successes; and make
a show of them openly in the pride of his heart;…he wants others to
know that his labour has not been lost; but the non…lover is more
his own master; and is desirous of solid good; and not of the
opinion of mankind。 Again; the lover may be generally noted or seen
following the beloved (this is his regular occupation); and whenever
they are observed to exchange two words they are supposed to meet
about some affair of love either past or in contemplation; but when
non…lovers meet; no one asks the reason why; because people know
that talking to another is natural; whether friendship or mere
pleasure be the motive。
Once more; if you fear the fickleness of friendship; consider that
in any other case a quarrel might be a mutual calamity; but now;
when you have given up what is most precious to you; you will be the
greater loser; and therefore; you will have more reason in being
afraid of the lover; for his vexations are many; and he is always
fancying that every one is leagued against him。 Wherefore also he
debars his beloved from society; he will not have you intimate with
the wealthy; lest they should exceed him in wealth; or with men of
education; lest they should be his superiors in understanding; and
he is equally afraid of anybody's influence who has any other
advantage over himself。 If he can persuade you to break with them; you
are left without friend in the world; or if; out of a regard to your
own interest; you have more sense than to comply with his desire;
you will have to quarrel with him。 But those who are non…lovers; and
whose success in love is the reward of their merit; will not be
jealous of the companions of their beloved; and will rather hate those
who refuse to be his associates; thinking that their favourite is
slighted by the latter and benefited by the former; for more love than
hatred may be expected to come to him out of his friendship with
others。 Many lovers too have loved the person of a youth before they
knew his character or his belongings; so that when their passion has
passed away; there is no knowing whether they will continue to be
his friends; whereas; in the case of non…lovers who were always
friends; the friendship is not lessened by the favours granted; but
the recollection of these remains with them; and is an earnest of good
things to come。
Further; I say that you are likely to be improved by me; whereas the
lover will spoil you。 For they praise your words and actions in a
wrong way; partly; because they are afraid of offending you; and also;
their judgment is weakened by passion。 Such are the feats which love
exhibits; he makes things painful to the disappointed which give no
pain to others; he compels the successful lover to praise what ought
not to give him pleasure; and therefore the beloved is to be pitied
rather than envied。 But if you listen to me; in the first place; I; in
my intercourse with you; shall not merely regard present enjoyment;
but also future advantage; being not mastered by love; but my own
master; nor for small causes taking violent dislikes; but even when
the cause is great; slowly laying up little wrath…unintentional
offences I shall forgive; and intentional ones I shall try to prevent;
and these are the marks of a friendship which will last。
Do you think that a lover only can be a firm friend? reflect:…if
this were true; we should set small value on sons; or fathers; or
mothers; nor should we ever have loyal friends; for our love of them
arises not from passion; but from other associations。 Further; if we