protagoras-第1章
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380 BC
PROTAGORAS
by Plato
translated by Benjamin Jowett
PROTAGORAS
PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: SOCRATES; who is the narrator of the
Dialogue to his Companion; HIPPOCRATES; ALCIBIADES; CRINAS;
PROTAGORAS; HIPPIAS; PRODICUS; Sophists; CALLIAS; a wealthy
Athenian。 Scene: The House of Callias
Com。 Where do you come from; Socrates? And yet I need hardly ask the
question; for I know that you have been in chase of the fair
Alcibiades。 I saw the day before yesterday; and he had got a beard
like a man…and he is a man; as I may tell you in your ear。 But I
thought that he was still very charming。
Soc。 What of his beard? Are you not of Homer's opinion; who says
Youth is most charming when the beard first appears?
And that is now the charm of Alcibiades。
Com。 Well; and how do matters proceed? Have you been visiting him;
and was he gracious to you?
Soc。 Yes; I thought that he was very gracious; and especially
to…day; for I have just come from him; and he has been helping me in
an argument。 But shall I tell you a strange thing? I paid no attention
to him; and several times I quite forgot that he was present。
Com。 What is the meaning of this? Has anything happened between
you and him? For surely you cannot have discovered a fairer love
than he is; certainly not in this city of Athens。
Soc。 Yes; much fairer。
Com。 What do you mean…a citizen or a foreigner?
Soc。 A foreigner。
Com。 Of what country?
Soc。 Of Abdera。
Com。 And is this stranger really in your opinion a fairer love
than the son of Cleinias?
Soc。 And is not the wiser always the fairer; sweet friend?
Com。 But have you really met; Socrates; with some wise one?
Soc。 Say rather; with the wisest of all living men; if you are
willing to accord that title to Protagoras。
Com。 What! Is Protagoras in Athens?
Soc。 Yes; he has been here two days。
Com。 And do you just come from an interview with him?
Soc。 Yes; and I have heard and said many things。
Com。 Then; if you have no engagement; suppose that you sit down tell
me what passed; and my attendant here shall give up his place to you。
Soc。 To be sure; and I shall be grateful to you for listening。
Com。 Thank you; too; for telling us。
Soc。 That is thank you twice over。 Listen then:…
Last night; or rather very early this morning; Hippocrates; the
son of Apollodorus and the brother of Phason; gave a tremendous
thump with his staff at my door; some one opened to him; and he came
rushing in and bawled out: Socrates; are you awake or asleep?
I knew his voice; and said: Hippocrates; is that you? and do you
bring any news?
Good news; he said; nothing but good。
Delightful; I said; but what is the news? and why have you come
hither at this unearthly hour?
He drew nearer to me and said: Protagoras is come。
Yes; I replied; he came two days ago: have you only just heard of
his arrival?
Yes; by the gods; he said; but not until yesterday evening。
At the same time he felt for the truckle…bed; and sat down at my
feet; and then he said: Yesterday quite late in the evening; on my
return from Oenoe whither I had gone in pursuit of my runaway slave
Satyrus; as I meant to have told you; if some other matter had not
come in the way;…on my return; when we had done supper and were
about to retire to rest; my brother said to me: Protagoras is come。
I was going to you at once; and then I thought that the night was
far spent。 But the moment sleep left me after my fatigue; I got up and
came hither direct。
I; who knew the very courageous madness of the man; said: What is
the matter? Has Protagoras robbed you of anything?
He replied; laughing: Yes; indeed he has; Socrates; of the wisdom
which he keeps from me。
But; surely; I said; if you give him money; and make friends with
him; he will make you as wise as he is himself。
Would to heaven; he replied; that this were the case! He might
take all that I have; and all that my friends have; if he pleased。 But
that is why I have come to you now; in order that you may speak to him
on my behalf; for I am young; and also I have never seen nor heard
him; (when he visited Athens before I was but a child) and all men
praise him; Socrates; he is reputed to be the most accomplished of
speakers。 There is no reason why we should not go to him at once;
and then we shall find him at home。 He lodges; as I hear; with Callias
the son of Hipponicus: let us start。
I replied: Not yet; my good friend; the hour is too early。 But let
us rise and take a turn in the court and wait about there until
daybreak; when the day breaks; then we will go。 For Protagoras is
generally at home; and we shall be sure to find him; never fear。
Upon this we got up and walked about in the court; and I thought
that I would make trial of the strength of his resolution。 So I
examined him and put questions to him。 Tell me; Hippocrates; I said;
as you are going to Protagoras; and will be paying your money to
him; what is he to whom you are going? and what will he make of you?
If; for example; you had thought of going to Hippocrates of Cos; the
Asclepiad; and were about to give him your money; and some one had
said to you: You are paying money to your namesake Hippocrates; O
Hippocrates; tell me; what is he that you give him money? how would
you have answered?
I should say; he replied; that I gave money to him as a physician。
And what will he make of you?
A physician; he said。
And if you were resolved to go to Polycleitus the Argive; or
Pheidias the Athenian; and were intending to give them money; and some
one had asked you: What are Polycleitus and Pheidias? and why do you
give them this money?…how would you have answered?
I should have answered; that they were statuaries。
And what will they make of you?
A statuary; of course。
Well now; I said; you and I are going to Protagoras; and we are
ready to pay him money on your behalf。 If our own means are
sufficient; and we can gain him with these; we shall be only too glad;
but if not; then we are to spend the money of your friends as well。
Now suppose; that while we are thus enthusiastically pursuing our
object some one were to say to us: Tell me; Socrates; and you
Hippocrates; what is Protagoras; and why are you going to pay him
money;…how should we answer? I know that Pheidias is a sculptor; and
that Homer is a poet; but what appellation is given to Protagoras? how
is he designated?
They call him a Sophist; Socrates; he replied。
Then we are going to pay our money to him in the character of a
Sophist?
Certainly。
But suppose a person were to ask this further question: And how
about yourself? What will Protagoras make of you; if you go to see
him?
He answered; with a blush upon his face (for the day was just
beginning to dawn; so that I could see him): Unless this differs in
some way from the former instances; I suppose that he will make a
Sophist of me。
By the gods; I said; and are you not ashamed at having to appear
before the Hellenes in the character of a Sophist?
Indeed; Socrates; to confess the truth; I am。
But you should not assume; Hippocrates; that the instruction of
Protagoras is of this nature: may you not learn of him in the same way
that you learned the arts of the grammarian; musician; or trainer; not
with the view of making any of them a profession; but only as a part
of education; and because a private gentleman and freeman ought to
know them?
Just so; he said; and that; in my opinion; is