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it would at once be and be like them in virtue of the equality; but if



one has no being; then it can neither be nor be like?



  It cannot。



  But since it is not equal to the others; neither can the others be



equal to it?



  Certainly not。



  And things that are not equal are unequal?



  True。



  And they are unequal to an unequal?



  Of course。



  Then the one partakes of inequality; and in respect of this the



others are unequal to it?



  Very true。



  And inequality implies greatness and smallness?



  Yes。



  Then the one; if of such a nature; has greatness and smallness?



  That appears to be true。



  And greatness and smallness always stand apart?



  True。



  Then there is always something between them?



  There is。



  And can you think of anything else which is between them other



than equality?



  No; it is equality which lies between them。



  Then that which has greatness and smallness also has equality; which



lies between them?



  That is clear。



  Then the one; which is not; partakes; as would appear; of



greatness and smallness and equality?



  Clearly。



  Further; it must surely in a sort partake of being?



  How so?



  It must be so; for if not; then we should not speak the truth in



saying that the one is not。 But if we speak the truth; clearly we must



say what is。 Am I not right?



  Yes。



  And since we affirm that we speak truly; we must also affirm that we



say what is?



  Certainly。



  Then; as would appear; the one; when it is not; is; for if it were



not to be when it is not; but were to relinquish something of being;



so as to become not…being; it would at once be。



  Quite true。



  Then the one which is not; if it is to maintain itself; must have



the being of not…being as the bond of not…being; just as being must



have as a bond the not…being of not…being in order to perfect its



own being; for the truest assertion of the being of being and of the



not…being of not being is when being partakes of the being of being;



and not of the being of not…being…that is; the perfection of being;



and when not…being does not partake of the not…being of not…being



but of the being of not…being…that is the perfection of not…being。



  Most true。



  Since then what is partakes of not…being; and what is not of



being; must not the one also partake of being in order not to be?



  Certainly。



  Then the one; if it is not; clearly has being?



  Clearly。



  And has not…being also; if it is not?



  Of course。



  But can anything which is in a certain state not be in that state



without changing?



  Impossible。



  Then everything which is and is not in a certain state; implies



change?



  Certainly。



  And change is motion…we may say that?



  Yes; motion。



  And the one has been proved both to be and not to be?



  Yes。



  And therefore is and is not in the same state?



  Yes。



  Thus the one that is not has been shown to have motion also; because



it changes from being to not…being?



  That appears to be true。



  But surely if it is nowhere among what is; as is the fact; since



it is not; it cannot change from one place to another?



  Impossible。



  Then it cannot move by changing place?



  No。



  Nor can it turn on the same spot; for it nowhere touches the same;



for the same is; and that which is not cannot be reckoned among things



that are?



  It cannot。



  Then the one; if it is not; cannot turn in that in which it is not?



  No。



  Neither can the one; whether it is or is not; be altered into



other than itself; for if it altered and became different from itself;



then we could not be still speaking of the one; but of something else?



  True。



  But if the one neither suffers alteration; nor turns round in the



same place; nor changes place; can it still be capable of motion?



  Impossible。



  Now that which is unmoved must surely be at rest; and that which



is at rest must stand still?



  Certainly。



  Then the one that is not; stands still; and is also in motion?



  That seems to be true。



  But if it be in motion it must necessarily undergo alteration; for



anything which is moved; in so far as it is moved; is no longer in the



same state; but in another?



  Yes。



  Then the one; being moved; is altered?



  Yes。



  And; further; if not moved in any way; it will not be altered in any



way?



  No。



  Then; in so far as the one that is not is moved; it is altered;



but in so far as it is not moved; it is not altered?



  Right。



  Then the one that is not is altered and is not altered?



  That is clear。



  And must not that which is altered become other than it previously



was; and lose its former state and be destroyed; but that which is not



altered can neither come into being nor be destroyed?



  Very true。



  And the one that is not; being altered; becomes and is destroyed;



and not being altered; neither becomes nor is destroyed; and so the



one that is not becomes and is destroyed; and neither becomes nor is



destroyed?



  True。







  And now; let us go back once more to the beginning; and see



whether these or some other consequences will follow。



  Let us do as you say。



  If one is not; we ask what will happen in respect of one? That is



the question。



  Yes。



  Do not the words 〃is not〃 signify absence of being in that to



which we apply them?



  Just so。



  And when we say that a thing is not; do we mean that it is not in



one way but is in another? or do we mean; absolutely; that what is not



has in no sort or way or kind participation of being?



  Quite absolutely。



  Then; that which is not cannot be; or in any way participate in



being?



  It cannot。



  And did we not mean by becoming; and being destroyed; the assumption



of being and the loss of being?



  Nothing else。



  And can that which has no participation in being; either assume or



lose being?



  Impossible。



  The one then; since it in no way is; cannot have or lose or assume



being in any way?



  True。



  Then the one that is not; since it in no way partakes of being;



neither nor becomes?



  No。



  Then it is not altered at all; for if it were it would become and be



destroyed?



  True。



  But if it be not altered it cannot be moved?



  Certainly not。



  Nor can we say that it stands; if it is nowhere; for that which



stands must always be in one and the same spot?



  Of course。



  Then we must say that the one which is not never stands still and



never moves?



  Neither。



  Nor is there any existing thing which can be attributed to it; for



if there had been; it would partake of being?



  That is clear。



  And therefore neither smallness; nor greatness; nor equality; can be



attributed to it?



  No。



  Nor yet likeness nor difference; either in relation to itself or



to others?



  Clearly not。



  Well; and if nothing should be attributed to it; can other things be



attributed to it?



  Certainly not。



  And therefore other things can neither be like or unlike; the



same; or different in relation to it?



  They cannot。



  Nor can what is not; be anything; or be this thing; or be related to



or the attribute of this or that or other; or be past; present; or



future。 Nor can knowledge; or opinion; or perception; or expression;



or name; or any other thing that is; have any concern with it?



  No。



  Then the one that is not has no condition of any kind?



  Such appears to be the conclusion。



  Yet once more; if one is not; what becomes of the others? Let us



determine that。



  Yes; let us determine that。



  The others must surely be; for if they; like the one; were not; we



could not be now speaking of them。



  True。

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