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who has not been ungracious to us; I think; but what shall I say to



the Theban Cadmus; and how shall I propitiate him?



  I think that you will discover a way of propitiating him; said



Cebes; I am sure that you have answered the argument about harmony



in a manner that I could never have expected。 For when Simmias



mentioned his objection; I quite imagined that no answer could be



given to him; and therefore I was surprised at finding that his



argument could not sustain the first onset of yours; and not



impossibly the other; whom you call Cadmus; may share a similar fate。



  Nay; my good friend; said Socrates; let us not boast; lest some evil



eye should put to flight the word which I am about to speak。 That;



however; may be left in the hands of those above; while I draw near in



Homeric fashion; and try the mettle of your words。 Briefly; the sum of



your objection is as follows: You want to have proven to you that



the soul is imperishable and immortal; and you think that the



philosopher who is confident in death has but a vain and foolish



confidence; if he thinks that he will fare better than one who has led



another sort of life; in the world below; unless he can prove this;



and you say that the demonstration of the strength and divinity of the



soul; and of her existence prior to our becoming men; does not



necessarily imply her immortality。 Granting that the soul is



longlived; and has known and done much in a former state; still she is



not on that account immortal; and her entrance into the human form may



be a sort of disease which is the beginning of dissolution; and may at



last; after the toils of life are over; end in that which is called



death。 And whether the soul enters into the body once only or many



times; that; as you would say; makes no difference in the fears of



individuals。 For any man; who is not devoid of natural feeling; has



reason to fear; if he has no knowledge or proof of the soul's



immortality。 That is what I suppose you to say; Cebes; which I



designedly repeat; in order that nothing may escape us; and that you



may; if you wish; add or subtract anything。



  But; said Cebes; as far as I can see at present; I have nothing to



add or subtract; you have expressed my meaning。



  Socrates paused awhile; and seemed to be absorbed in reflection。



At length he said: This is a very serious inquiry which you are



raising; Cebes; involving the whole question of generation and



corruption; about which I will; if you like; give you my own



experience; and you can apply this; if you think that anything which I



say will avail towards the solution of your difficulty。



  I should very much like; said Cebes; to hear what you have to say。



  Then I will tell you; said Socrates。 When I was young; Cebes; I



had a prodigious desire to know that department of philosophy which is



called Natural Science; this appeared to me to have lofty aims; as



being the science which has to do with the causes of things; and which



teaches why a thing is; and is created and destroyed; and I was always



agitating myself with the consideration of such questions as these: Is



the growth of animals the result of some decay which the hot and



cold principle contracts; as some have said? Is the blood the



element with which we think; or the air; or the fire? or perhaps



nothing of this sort…but the brain may be the originating power of the



perceptions of hearing and sight and smell; and memory and opinion may



come from them; and science may be based on memory and opinion when no



longer in motion; but at rest。 And then I went on to examine the decay



of them; and then to the things of heaven and earth; and at last I



concluded that I was wholly incapable of these inquiries; as I will



satisfactorily prove to you。 For I was fascinated by them to such a



degree that my eyes grew blind to things that I had seemed to



myself; and also to others; to know quite well; and I forgot what I



had before thought to be self…evident; that the growth of man is the



result of eating and drinking; for when by the digestion of food flesh



is added to flesh and bone to bone; and whenever there is an



aggregation of congenial elements; the lesser bulk becomes larger



and the small man greater。 Was not that a reasonable notion?



  Yes; said Cebes; I think so。



  Well; but let me tell you something more。 There was a time when I



thought that I understood the meaning of greater and less pretty well;



and when I saw a great man standing by a little one I fancied that one



was taller than the other by a head; or one horse would appear to be



greater than another horse: and still more clearly did I seem to



perceive that ten is two more than eight; and that two cubits are more



than one; because two is twice one。



  And what is now your notion of such matters? said Cebes。



  I should be far enough from imagining; he replied; that I knew the



cause of any of them; indeed I should; for I cannot satisfy myself



that when one is added to one; the one to which the addition is made



becomes two; or that the two units added together make two by reason



of the addition。 For I cannot understand how; when separated from



the other; each of them was one and not two; and now; when they are



brought together; the mere juxtaposition of them can be the cause of



their becoming two: nor can I understand how the division of one is



the way to make two; for then a different cause would produce the same



effect…as in the former instance the addition and juxtaposition of one



to one was the cause of two; in this the separation and subtraction of



one from the other would be the cause。 Nor am I any longer satisfied



that I understand the reason why one or anything else either is



generated or destroyed or is at all; but I have in my mind some



confused notion of another method; and can never admit this。



  Then I heard someone who had a book of Anaxagoras; as he said; out



of which he read that mind was the disposer and cause of all; and I



was quite delighted at the notion of this; which appeared admirable;



and I said to myself: If mind is the disposer; mind will dispose all



for the best; and put each particular in the best place; and I



argued that if anyone desired to find out the cause of the



generation or destruction or existence of anything; he must find out



what state of being or suffering or doing was best for that thing; and



therefore a man had only to consider the best for himself and



others; and then he would also know the worse; for that the same



science comprised both。 And I rejoiced to think that I had found in



Anaxagoras a teacher of the causes of existence such as I desired; and



I imagined that he would tell me first whether the earth is flat or



round; and then he would further explain the cause and the necessity



of this; and would teach me the nature of the best and show that



this was best; and if he said that the earth was in the centre; he



would explain that this position was the best; and I should be



satisfied if this were shown to me; and not want any other sort of



cause。 And I thought that I would then go and ask him about the sun



and moon and stars; and that he would explain to me their



comparative swiftness; and their returnings and various states; and



how their several affections; active and passive; were all for the



best。 For I could not imagine that when he spoke of mind as the



disposer of them; he would give any other account of their being as



they are; except that this was best; and I thought when he had



explained to me in detail the cause of each and the cause of all; he



would go on to explain to me what was best for each and what was



best for all。 I had hopes which I would not have sold for much; and



I seized the books and read them as fast as I could in my eagerness

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